tlcorbinMorality
March 20th 2008 22:15
Category: General
Is the source of your moral foundation secular, spiritual or religiously based? Whose rules should govern a society? Should the rule of law have a secular, spiritual or religious foundation; which spiritual belief system? Eastern or Western philosophy? What are your thoughts?
Raven
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My morals are confused and mixed. I fight for them and they have to do with injustice...But my idea of injustice is so different from most peoples.
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Not so sure about that personally...going by that, eating a block of chocolate is immoral!
...perhaps morality is about others living life the way you want! Do we question our morals or the morals of others?...and how they affect us?
Way too deep for me right now. All I feel I know is morality is spiritual. One person's cannibalism is another person's food.
...and I've had way too much chocolate now I think...
Comment by Damo
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There is a yard stick in everyones heads that they use as the starting point of morality. The rest is just a bunch of logical consistencies based upon that.
Change the starting point and everything changes.
Comment by tlcorbin
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James, it was meant to be tough question; the word of a person of integrity should be their contract. Integrity is never antiquated.
I understand kleo; still the struggle surfaces internally, that not so quiet inner voice will be heard until some form of resolution has been formulated.
DDevi, Hemingway may have been on to something, but was definitely suffering from chocolate withdrawal.
Damo, it's finding the common ground, that everyone can live with, seems to be the point of contention.
All very interesting, thank you for sharing your thoughts. Raven
Comment by Lilla
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OMG what a question... do you realise that it took me two years to find a deinifition of the word "Boundaries" that actually made sense to me in explaining what it really meant, and now I have gone and lost it again... you are right though, there are some words that the dictionary doesn;t work for at all, beyond a perfunctionary 'feeling' of a deeper truth.
MORALITY..
For the most part I have to agree with Dusk and Hemmingway in that there is a moving scale involved here ... and probably evolving too (in a collective manner of speaking). . .
Perhaps seeds of the answer lies in further asking : 'When was morality first questioned by mankind.' .. perhaps when the first laws were laied down?
As for Morality in the form of sexual virtue, I believe that despite falling morailty in family values, for the most part the teenagers of today seem to enforce more stringent morals and self control than the teenagers of the seventies, despite all outward appearances? It's not a forgone conclusion, just a general observation (including my own 'children'). Of course there are always the exceptions to the rule, aren't there?
So back to the slide rule...
It's like a Rubiks cube this one, isn;t it?
Many sides ... many colours - different morality for different ages, races and creeds ... (HA HA) the answer may well rest, buried deep within our two extra chromosones and awaiting perhaps, another two years for me to find out, now that you have asked it (thanks) *rolling eyes* ((laughs)) until then I will continue to side with Dusk and Hemmingway, in that 'sliding line' that is totally individual and say that whatever Morality is, it is not a one-size-fits-all measure, because of the non-quantifiable essence of love itself... at least not for the observer.
So we must do what makes us feel good about ourselves first and foremost and that defines our level of morailty ... going now, to chase my tail around in private *chuckle* what a question?!
You look good. wow, that background looks invigorating from here in the tropics.
Lilla ...
Comment by tlcorbin
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Alaska is beautiful and thanks for the compliment. Now, as a result of your input, I have to go ponder some more about this matter…., geez, will it never end? You just had to inject more fodder into the question, hahaha. Excellent musings!
Raven
Comment by Damo
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Common ground only comes from common desires.
The welfare of self.
The welfare of loved ones.
The welfare of society.
The welfare of strangers.
Every new ideology creates its own quirks of morality.
Comment by tlcorbin
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Desire isn't a need or a requisite to survival, the morality issues I am concerned with, assure mutual survival; but for the most part, there is little consensus about the basis of such a code. We can't agree on it's foundation, but will attack the attempts with secular, religious, political, spiritual or theist arguments.
I am of the opinion that welfare (desires) are most often inferior to the survival of society. Welfare is the antithesis of individual accountability and a blight.
It was welfare based desire of elitists that contributed to the mindset of manifest destiny, which was the ploy used to strip indigenous occupants of various lands of their ability to survive, let alone thrive; it was bereft of morality. But it did satisfy the welfare of a select few.
Survival is far superior to welfare. How do we formulate a moral code to ensure mutual survival.
Raven
Comment by Damo
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There is no simple answer as everyone wants their own moral code to be the one that is adopted.
The answer is from time to time we have mutual goals but than someone goes their own direction and says screw you lot.
The word welfare I sued in a completely different context to how you read it. I could have said well being.
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